Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:56 am Post subject: <XP> XXVISTAXX >> Win 7
Skip Vista and go directly from XP to Windows 7. That's my take. I am running Win 7 for the last few months and it is the balls. It is the best OS in my opinion now. I am running in 64 bit and my 3 year old heavily used laptop is smoking fast. It is like a new super duper computer. Make sure you have at least 2 GB ram even if it can run in 1GB. You'll thank me later! _________________ 20% Discount is SSSave - Signup for web hosting, get 20% Off and support the HQ network of sites stay a float!
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:28 pm Post subject:
Thats exactly what I did. During the vista fiasco, I went to OSX on a macbook.
I used my XP rig for gaming up until I just built my new one with Win7Pro64 and I must say it is a great OS.
It takes a little getting used to somethings, finding things that were once common place in XP.
Vista was too much bloat for me. I never really ever tried it save for a few times when it wouldn't stop asking for access. _________________ XBOX v1.6
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:13 pm Post subject:
yeah, everyone feels safe with XP and it was good but it was a slow self destructing piece of software. It is time to move on from it people. Vista was not the cake, Windows 7 is.
I have one desktop with Vista. I can say I liked the overall look and feel but it was a nightmare making the hardware/software working right. Mind you this is quite a kick but computer with 4 CPU's and was bought with Vista installed from Dell. It was barely usable the first year. Kept crashing and loosing one of the raid drives in the raid. Since I didn't have the time to screw with it, I let it sit another year and then got to the nutty gritty with it. Works great now. Just have the fear with Windows updates that it will screw up again.
Now my experience with Windows 7 in mint. I put it on my laptop that was running XP pretty good. With Windows 7 64 bit, it just screams. The install was perfect. All drivers were found that work with Win 7 except the video driver. I had to use a compatible Vista driver but it still works great. Every single software that I used in XP is working perfectly in Win 7. Not even using the compatibility mode at all. So the 32 bit programs that were made for XP are working fine for me in Windows 7.
For the interface, Windows 7 is like Vista but better. It still is familiar to me from XP. but since my PC is running like 4 times better than XP it seems so natural to use.
I am sure there will be plenty if software that does not work or you may have to run in compatibility mode but for me everything was smooth and wonderful in my Windows 7 experience. _________________ 20% Discount is SSSave - Signup for web hosting, get 20% Off and support the HQ network of sites stay a float!
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:36 pm Post subject:
My only gripe with 7 is the loss of a couple of peripherals due to lack of no new driver's being update...mainly my USB sound card (Audigy ZS) and my gamer pad from Belkin, the N52. _________________ XBOX v1.6
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:51 pm Post subject:
shortacid wrote:
My only gripe with 7 is the loss of a couple of peripherals due to lack of no new driver's being update...mainly my USB sound card (Audigy ZS) and my gamer pad from Belkin, the N52.
Yes, but I found after doing the Win 7 updates, it suddenly knew allot more drivers. Even my 15+ year old Okidata 600 had one but not in the Win 7 initial installation. That printer only works on a parallel printer port.
So you may get lucky. It depends really on manufacture support. I think many just want you to buy the new products so may not support some peripherals in Win 7. however, it appear Microsoft has released generic drivers for many devices that clients have requested. I am sure it is only the most request ones, of course.
Chances are that if there is a working driver for your peripheral in Vista, you may be able to use that Vista driver under Windows 7, like I did for the ATI 1400 graphics in my laptop since Dell is not releasing one for Win 7 and you can't use the ATI released drivers on this laptop. _________________ 20% Discount is SSSave - Signup for web hosting, get 20% Off and support the HQ network of sites stay a float!
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:00 pm Post subject:
Tried all different things for the N52, old drivers, new drivers (vista), etc... I think the 64 bit messes things up abit too.
The N52TE driver also doesn't work for it. I think they just released a 7 one as well and it didn't work on mine.
I can "use" it, but when I was playing WoW, it would make the mouse point lose focus, so I wouldn't be able to click anything on the window and I would have to restart the game. _________________ XBOX v1.6
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:06 pm Post subject:
Yeah, I don't use my laptop for gaming just personal work and development so I don't think the graphics driver will be optimized for games. It sure is nice to have a laptop that boots nearly instantly and loads programs in a flash. I am constantly finding I am running 10 browser windows, multiple network tools, graphics software and more with no slow down. Everything is instant. I feel spoiled now hehe.
Anyway, it can be a pain to get things perfect not to mention that you can't do that is all cases. In general 7 rocks I think. But the age old saying still may still apply 'Out with the old and in with the new'. _________________ 20% Discount is SSSave - Signup for web hosting, get 20% Off and support the HQ network of sites stay a float!
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:26 pm Post subject:
Almost sounds like you have a SSD in that bad boy, the way you are talking _________________ XBOX v1.6
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:41 pm Post subject:
shortacid wrote:
Almost sounds like you have a SSD in that bad boy, the way you are talking
No not SSD but it is a fast drive. I have it perfectly partioned with 1 partion per platter. There are only 2 platters in this drive. The 250GB version of this drive has 1 platter and fast. _________________ 20% Discount is SSSave - Signup for web hosting, get 20% Off and support the HQ network of sites stay a float!
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:43 pm Post subject:
Is that similar to short stroking a HDD?
I have been reading little bits of it here and there on the OCN Overclock site i have been reading.
Supposed to speed up the drive by only allowing data to be written in the fastest access sectors. _________________ XBOX v1.6
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:59 pm Post subject:
Well, if this drive had 4 platters for the same size then it would have slower access times since you can only read from one at a moment in time, the more platters the slower the access in general. Most drives have more than 2 platters.
So no it's not short stroking a drive but that does sound interesting.
All I did to get close to the same performance I would have received with the 250GB 1 patter version of the drive is having 2 partitions, one on each platter, being careful not to have one of the partitions partially on the other platter.
Also this drive is 7200 RPM which helps some.
I would love to have a Solid State Drive though. That's the next step in laptops. _________________ 20% Discount is SSSave - Signup for web hosting, get 20% Off and support the HQ network of sites stay a float!
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:22 pm Post subject:
I don't believe it is just the drive that makes things better. It is Windows 7 utilizing the system an efficient way. Before Windows 7, when I was running XP, the switch to this drive did totally improve things but nothing like compared to running Window 7 in 64 bit.
I believe Windows 7 is far superior in managing the overall system resources, the way it uses RAM, system bus, drive bus and multi-threading so on. I just think XP sucked at using the true potential of any computer system or at least my laptop in particular.
Maybe part of it is Windows is far better at multi-tasking but that lies hand and hand with how well it uses what is available to it.
I am going on 3.5 months with Windows 7. Computer is still top notch compared to XP ever was on it. I did try XP 64 bit but it was the worst experience getting everything working and it was only marginally faster than XP 32 bit on this laptop. I still have XP and XP 64 bit bootable on this laptop too.
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I also just took out 1 GB ran to see what happens and things are working smooth but can not run as many open programs as before. It is slightly slower and uses the drive allot more. I wonder what 4 GB ram would be like? by the way, my RAM is over 1GZ which helps to. Not sure why but all my tests say the RAM is over 2Ghz. Strange, how is that possible? I know it is a Dual Core 2 Ghz x2 but not sure why it thinks the ram is so fast. I do not over clock anything... Motherboard bus is 1066Mhz I believe but I can't find info on that. _________________ 20% Discount is SSSave - Signup for web hosting, get 20% Off and support the HQ network of sites stay a float!
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:28 pm Post subject:
I saw an ad in PC-World I think with SSD in SATA II format. Claims to blow standard SATA II away and it is for laptops.
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